Filling the Gap Photography & Mental Health. With some loaders there is no actual gate, just a labyrinth which prevents the light from entering more than an inch or so. See if you can guess which is which in the comments! Fomapan on the other hand seems underexposed when shot at box speed. You write from your shoes on the groundand no tree shots. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. 1. But HP5 Plus offers something different than Tri-X - stronger Kentmere 400, exposed for the sky almost a perfect gradient from the top of the frame to the middle where it falls off into blown out territory. In their world, it was imperative to get the shot (a few were still using 45 press cameras) so each step of the process carried equal weight: exposure, developing, printing. The grain is fairly fine. And while you cannot buy D-23, you can buy it in kits from Photographers formulary or mix it up yourself. Get a free Kentmere 35mm film when you use my invite link!http://i.refs.cc/r7yZ7EEe In this video I shoot my first roll of Fomapan 400 Black and White Although I wouldnt Also, Fomapan 400 is a film that shines in certain situations and conditions and if youre looking for a specific look and feel to your black & white images. Thanks! in Compard R09 Spezial. At $8.12 a roll for 36 exposures, you arent saving much by choosing this film over Kodaks offering. Kentmere 400 is probably the film for you. Ill meter Fomapan 400 for the shadows when I think theres maybe a three-four stop difference between shadow and highlight, any higher and Ill expose slightly further up. The only concession I made to scientific method was shooting them both on the same day, so there were similar lighting conditions. Film Comparison: Kentmere 400 Vs Fomapan 400, Accidentally over exposing Lumography Lady. And the best part is that you can get Fomapan 400 in medium format and sheet film. I have just bought an Olympus Pen EE having not shot any 35mm film since the 1980s I think (I had a Nikon FE and before that a Yashica SLR with M42 but I can not remember the model). ALL my posts are to be read with an aMaZeBaLLs BARRY WHITE voice. I quit shooting Fomapan 400 because it was so scratch prone for me.Also, whats your Plustek workflow like Im thinking of ditching silverfast for vuescan, Im hearing vuescan makes for more neutral images because silverfast always wants to employ negafix profiles and rubbish like that (half the films I shoot dont even have a negafix profile). I am interested in contrast in less than optimal conditions, and the detail were able to pull out of specifically the darker areas of the image. Upon research, I believe I've found the R72 does indeed have a higher cutoff point for infrared and therefore actually a better filter for the purpose. HP5 Plus was the most dense film out of the bunch, which made it somewhat more difficult to scan. It is nice to know that detail is there, especially if I was thinking of taking this negative to the dark room and might want to pull it out in some of those areas: I take most of my photos outside in standard British weather, and I need a film that can be under or over exposed occasionally and still give results that I can get acceptable images from. I developed both films with rodinol, so a good deal of grain was to be expected. Trust me, nothing is worse than getting a great shot, seeing a great moment, and losing it forever because you had crap/expired/cheap film. Shadow detail is close to non-existent in these situations, but I am usually happier with the look of these images. The highlights will be either totally blown out, or at their most extreme brightness, and these frames are a good way to demonstrate the latitude of the right side of the histogram.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'35mmc_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_2',180,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-medrectangle-3-0'); Fomapan 400, exposed for his eyes which were the darkest part of the scene.Fomapan works very nicely when exposing for the shadows, although often shows halation in the brighter lit areas, and light sources. Zu teuer ist er auch nicht: im 10er-Pack 4,39 bei Fotoimpex. Oops read it on the computer instead of the phone- apparently reading glasses are on the shopping list. Tri-X at 320 is a wonderful look but one roll at 35mm is twice the price of Fomapan, sometimes even more than half! document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Id say its Kentmere on the left and Fomapan on the right. Fomapan 200, Im still trying to figure something out. But, as might have become evident at this point, my film choices are not exactly highly informed, I wasnt about to shoot test targets or anything ridiculous like that I just used both films as I usually would, then developed them according to the manufacturers instructions. Thanks John! That way, you're a mile away and you've got their shoes.". Hopefully this will be apparent when you look at the images below, which you can click on to get a closer look. Both are unique and can not replace the other. je nach Charge musste mal um ne Minute variiert werden, das wars dann aber auch. I want to see what a film or lens does on the street or around people. Glad you liked it!The one on the left is the Foma! These are terrific. Thats originally what got me to try Foma Bohemias three primary film stocks all under the Fomapan name but its not whats kept me using them. I think the example shots in this article demonstrate this well.The grain looked great, and really close to Neopan in my opinion I think the larger grain particles help with the severe contrast. I started off with HC-110 but found the dilutions impractical for most film I shot. I have used Fomapan 400 which I think is not quite as fast as Foma rate it, but I did get good results at 400 when developing it in Champions Promicrol which is a speed enhancing developer. Some people love it, some hate it. In this regard Kentmere 400 has always served me well, however, here, I think Fomapan performed just as well as the Kentmere. M3+50er Elmar auf Silvermax. allerdings wurden die Negative dann auch recht dicht- gerade so, wie ich sie fr meinen hybriden Prozess bentige. All negatives were scanned on a Nikon D810 with the 60mm f/2.8 AF-S macro lens and a Nikon ES-2 adapter, which is a massive leap forward in quality from the V600 I used when I first started shooting film. But honestly, Fomapan 400 Action is nearly indistinguishable from the two slower speeds in terms of grain, contrast, and image quality. Compare Ilford HP5 Plus vs Arista EDU Ultra 400 vs Foma Fomapan 400 Action Update: May 26, 2021Added a notation that the Fomapan data sheets indicate that the anti-halation dye clears during development, but that it has not been my experience that it does. Thank you Marius! "Never criticize someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes. Analog Workflow Forums (100% Analog/Traditional). I have been using Kentmere 400 for years now, primarily because its comes in at the cheaper (cheapest?) I tried (semi-succesfully) push foma200 1 stop in rodinal and its definitely also worth checking out, the foma200 film gives (imo) better results than the 400. Enter? I cant find a reputable source to this, and theres nothing mentioned in Fomas technical sheets, so Im really not sure what to think about this. Definitely worth the effort but definitely to save for the summer! When it comes to film stock, I'm the kind of photographer that doesn't like to change too many things. Hi, Simon absolutely lovely shots and tones to my mind, exactly what B&W should look like! Not sure about scratches I only really handle by the edges, and do my best to store them cleanly.Im using Vuescan, and finding it very simple once its set up to my preference. Warum hast den denn den Agfa Kipp verwendet, denn es ist ja vermutlich ein Ilford Film. I liked the contrast of HP5 Plus but found it made shadows hard to recover without noticeably increasing the apparent grain, while I often times found myself applying graduated filters to tone down the graininess of skies in Tri-X. It is, I believe, well known that Foma is a go-to choice for relabeled black-and-white film stocks, and evidence suggests that three of FPPs monster films are actually Fomapan 100, 200 and 400 respectively (the fourth appears to be Orwo UN54). When it comes to Fomapan film, results and opinions are mixed. That stuff came in handy as I dabbled in that artsy stuff. . The Kentmere almost never dips into pure white, whereas the Fomapan does so very frequently. Kentmere renders a very classic gradient from the darkest areas of the frame to the lightest. Lets face it: Shooting film is not exactly the cheapest of all possible endeavors. The Professional's Source Since 1973 Honestly, Im glad I gave Fomapan 400 a second look; its turned into a film Im now more likely to reach for outside of my usual two fast films, Ilford HP5+ and Kodak Tri-X. Especially considering the cost Id be happy to shoot this when the light calls for it, and keep my standard Delta and HP5 for the less than ideal autumn and winer light. This means whether my subject is passing through light or shade they will have detail in my frame. Thanks for visitingBeyond the Aperture. sie hatte nicht ganz unrecht. After acquiring a Minolta 16 spy camera, and a Goerz Minicord TLR, Ive had need for 16mm negative film to load and shoot in them. FrancoCJanuary 9, 2015 in Analog-Forum, Hallo, eine neue Bestellung von Filmen steht mal wieder an. Re: Fomapan 100, 200 and 400. Yep, there are many reviews of Foma 400 on the net, and they often say that, shot at box speed and developed as recommended, its grainy, contrasty and lacks shadow detail, which is what pushed film looks like.I shoot a lot of it, all at 200. Some people maintain that it has that vintage TriX feel from the 60s. Order and structure, vs a more random pattern of sizes. If Fomas QC were that good, then Id rather have the Foma. Film Comparison: Kentmere 400 Vs Fomapan 400. For example a roll of medium format will cost you less than 5$. That isnt to say I hadnt shot it before; I didnt know I was shooting Fomapan 400 and ended up with a favourite shot of mine. Exposure: 1/500 @ F5.6 (Y2 filter and rubber lens hood) Film: Fomapan 200 Creative dev. I see this as a good film for those who want to photograph historical events like World War Two or similar mid-century conflict reenactment. Kentmere is better in general, more dynamic range. I was reading an article that Simon King wrote on 35mmc where he shot fomapan 400 at 200. Hvesterlos 1 yr. ago. A couple of years ago, I spent the summer shooting different B&W films. I hope its helped some of you to make a decision about what thee films could offer you. DD-X is already to go. Again, much of that comes down to personal taste, and what you want from your photographs. It has lower dynamic range, and must be treated carefully regardless of what its being shot at. Kentmere is not an easy film to shoot. Ill soon be trying it at box and slightly overdeveloping it at a high temperature to see if I can achieve similar results to overexposing it by one stop. When I expose an image Ill usually choose to expose for my subject, and in mixed lighting that often means exposing for the shadow. Wenn ich mich fr nur einen Entwickler entscheiden mte: D76. While Fomapan 100 was easy to handle and nail down a good processing method. I've managed to tame it a bit with homemade Microdol 1:3 BTW Although development is slow, like 25-30 minutes at 75F with 30 second agitation. I recommend having a look at the images found in those to assess the qualities to be found at each different methodology. Fomapan is a film I tried when I first started out, but I was undertaking the learning curve of a film camera as well as film itself, and this meant that my results were not ideal. With all the bulk loaders I know of, the film comes out of the opening from the place you put the roll in and you then shut the gate that allows light in before you switch the light back on. und dabei kommt es eben darauf an, die flssige chemie zu verteilen. As a winter/autumn all rounder the Kentmere is serving me well, and Fomapan as a high-light film makes a lot of sense. It seemed I was getting better results with my R72 filter. I bought Arista edu 400 for it's infrared capability. Not being concerned with grain and underexposure, I didnt mind it. I wasnt expecting to prefer Fomapan overexposed, but I cant argue with the results. It has more highlight bleed and halation than Kentmere, but this is rarely overwhelming in the way it may be on something like Cinestill 800t. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. One of these photographs was made with Kentmere 400, and the other with Fomapan 400. aber eigentlich wird das nix. Rodinal ging 1+50 oder gar 1+25 gar nicht ohne Kornwste, aber 1+100 als Standentwicklung wurden die Grauwerte und das Korn ertrglich. I do keep a bottle of Rodinal on hand for slower films (Ferrania P30 or Across 100) but DD-X is my go-to for everything else. und deshalb folge ich da den Herstellerangaben der Chemie. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Personally though, as someone who accepts, even likes grain, and isnt averse to the look that youll get out of both of these films in Rodinol I am definitely thinking that the Fomapan offering will get a few more chances to impress. Im here a bit late, but I would like to add Rollei RPX. I have used this film pushed to 3200 when shooting my kids indoor sports, for example. einmal hat sie es geschafft, mich vom Kippen abzuhalten und der Film wurde einfach irgendwie gekippt ohne Uhr. Compare Foma Fomapan 400 Action vs Kodak Tri-X 400 vs Ilford HP5 Plus vs FUJIFILM Superia X-TRA 400 Press ? Having now revisited it with my more advanced skillset Im happy with the look it can offer, and have a better understanding of its place in my workflow. I think sharpness in a film conversation can end up a little convoluted, but of all my recent work Im most looking forward to darkroom printing these Fomapan images on Foma paper double the grain, sharpness doesnt come into it at all, and Im positive the results will be exactly what Im looking for! I think people looking for that aesthetic and willing to be less cavalier with their metering would be happy with the lower cost of Kentmere. There are several 5 Frames With articles Ive written here on 35mmc which look at some of the results from these different exposure combinations with Fomapan 400. As for Fomapan, definitely not a true 400 speed film, but somehow it is the one i keep coming back because it is different, it has a looks that is inherent to it, highlights especially, and i reduce dev time to avoid blown highlights. However I think there are some quite distinguished features to the grains of these films that should remain constant regardless of the technique used. ob es der neue oder der alte APX400 war? The character of these films comes down to a combination of the above factors. At any rate, nice shots. The experiment started by shooting a roll of Kentmere 400 and a roll of Fomapan 400. I chose the images below specifically because they have some big chunks of sky. sowohl Altbestnde APX400TS von 1996 (oder so) als auch frische Versandware habe ich so verarbeitet. Simon, nice job! 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